Intro: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Jenna Brown Show. I am Jenna Brown, psychic business strategist, wealth Energetics mentor and subconscious healing expert. The guide for women who are scaling to 6, 7, 8 figures in their business and who are done playing small with their power, their money, and their visibility, who have a deep inner belief that they get to have it all.
This is a space where strategy meets the subconscious where money becomes clean and where you learn how to expand your field of influence without burning yourself out or betraying yourself. Contrary to popular opinion, we talk about wealth, leadership, identity energetics, and what it takes to actually hold the type of money, the type of business and reality that you are calling in.
Clients cash, impact, desire. We talk about it all here. If you're ready to move beyond the hustle, beyond the proving and into overflow, that feels grounded, embodied, and [00:01:00] sustainable. You, my friends, are in the right place. Let's begin.
Jenna Brown: Hello everyone. Welcome back to the Jenna Brown Show, the overflow series. I'm so excited to be here today with my friend and one of my mentors and one of my clients, Kristin Rivas. Say hi.
Kristin Rivas: Hey there.
Thanks for having
Jenna Brown: Hey there. We have so much to talk with you guys about today. I just want you to like, buckle up, put your seat belts on.
We might be blasting off into other stratospheres. There's so many things that we already, we chatted about this week that we're gonna be sharing on this podcast. So I would love to get started. Kristin, with you introducing yourself. Tell us what you do, who you are, and then we will take off from there.
Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah, Kristin Rivas, and I've been a brain-based executive coach for 16 years, [00:02:00] so I've been helping. High achieving women who are executives, entrepreneurs with their performance expression, expansion, capacity building, whether that's for wealth or visibility and their health. So assisted quite a lot of people with a number of things.
And I have, uh, AON Clinics, brain Health Certification,
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: and I've learned quite a few different modalities. Was a specialist in RRT for years. Different kinds of hypnotherapy trainings, neurolinguistics NLP brain spotting, things like that. And I've kind of taken what I thought has been the most useful from all these modalities that I've learned all my experiences in my private practice over the past 16 years. And I developed my own. is what I'm calling a, a line shift integrate. A SI.
in 2013, [00:03:00] I gave a TEDx talk called the Life Changing Power of Words that shared how it is I came into my profession.
But long story short, if I could, the one sentence version was that I had had to drop out of college from a sudden mysterious illness.
It's very rare illness. Today it's called Functional neurological Disorder and about maybe one and every 200,000 people in the world get a diagnosis with it. And for some reason it's 95% women in their late teens to early twenties
who have been through trauma and their nervous system breaks down like how some people have panic attacks.
So I started having all kinds of neurological dysfunction. And I tried many different kinds of therapies, medications. I mean, I was like drinking Chinese herbal tonics, stuff like that for like almost two years. But then I had a powerful session with John Connolly, rapid Resolution Therapy, and that's what the TED [00:04:00] Talk covered that, like my symptoms disappeared in that one session.
Jenna Brown: hmm.
Kristin Rivas: And I have, I'm just putting it out there that I no longer support the founder of that process. There was a lot of unethical things that I've became aware of that happened with me and other people
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: registered a complaint with the Florida Department of Health. It's still under investigation, so I can't talk about it that much. They like warned us that it takes uh, actually one to three years to do an ethical violations investigations, a very slow process.
But anyways, I still have absolute love for the. Methods that helped me basically come into a room so sick to where, I mean, I had been having seizures up to nine times a day, was in a wheelchair, wearing a helmet and medication wouldn't make it stop.
Nothing. Made it stop. And then like through the power of energetic intention, healing, like the skilled use of words and intention, I came out of [00:05:00] that session with my nervous system having totally adjusted,
like my brain rewired, my nervous system reconditioned. And the magic of that experience of being like, wow, there wasn't any surgery, there wasn't a substance given to me.
It was just like night and day difference. Has made me totally excited to see what's possible and assisting other people and helping them as I've been helped.
Jenna Brown: Yeah, and thank you for sharing all of that. And I met you in that same community and through learning that incredible, I call it a technology more so than even a, uh, method. But what I love is how you have blended so many different things through your many years of practice and assisting people all across the spectrum.
Now, right now in your practice, you're not like focusing on healing people in wheelchairs or anything where you're really supporting women who [00:06:00] are here for. Next level development, high performing women who are like, ah, why do I keep hitting my same ceilings and my same subconscious blocks? And I was one of those women when I started working with you.
And one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on the podcast, I've also had you in my groups rewiring clients. I always tell people, I really do think that you're the best in the biz. Yeah. And we've had some crazy experiences together in sessions, which we'll talk about in a minute. But what I wanna harp on for a second is you said like this magical experience through the power of intention.
And I feel like you and I both know what that means. And like other people I feel like just hear of intention and they're like, yes, be intentional. But can we just like riff on that for a second? Around actually the power of intention and what you've seen in your life, your client's lives. I can share about like for me as well, but like [00:07:00] the power of why we need to have some type of intention to actually create change in our lives.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah, so it's easiest to hit a bullseye when you know what the target is what it looks
like where it's at, right?
Jenna Brown: yeah,
Kristin Rivas: One block that many people experience for change, if they feel stuck in their life in some way. is because they one don't have a clear enough intention, especially one that their unconscious mind would understand or respond to.
So there's, have you ever done the make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Like the directions exercise to making a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich?
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: So I remember that
in first grade, or some people have done it in college and people underestimate how specific and detailed you have to be to tell somebody if they were pretending like they don't know the English language or they've never made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, how detailed you have to be to in order to make one.
And a lot of times [00:08:00] people, we hear them say well, I want to, uh, earn more money, or I want to expand my wealth ceiling or something like that. I'd like to embody abundance. And the unconscious mind of course, doesn't really understand generalizations. It's understands specificity and. Mainly something that could be interpreted in a single visual image,
like with fine detail. And so a lot of times people haven't figured out yet a clear enough intention for their unconscious mind to respond to, to get a shift.
Jenna Brown: Yes,
Kristin Rivas: So that's one thing.
Jenna Brown: Yes. And I feel like for me, and this is something I'm always doing with clients too, is like sometimes at least I think this way, I'd be curious to know what you think when I am following people on social media and I think I want something, but I actually don't. Right? And I always am a big fan of people figuring out what their values are because like their actual values, what's actually frustrating them, what actually is pulling [00:09:00] them towards this next level?
Because sometimes you're just like, my next level, yes, of course I want more money, but like, why? And what does that look like? And how would you know that you're even there? And there's just so many things that come up. But I, yeah, I've noticed for me and for many clients, it's never like, we don't want it.
One, we have subconscious things that are saying, no, you're not allowed to have that. That's a threat that's unfamiliar. Right, but there's also this element of like maybe even what you want is not actually truly what you want or value.
Kristin Rivas: Right, exactly. So that getting a clear enough intention that you really, truly do know, like for instance, the subconscious mind or somebody's personality, their psyche, their human needs. It could maybe fantasize about wanting something like, I want a really uh, I just wanna grow my business. I
want a recognizable name brand, or something like [00:10:00] that. But they might want something about that. They might want a certain kind of revenue. They might want to be recognized in certain kinds of spaces.
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: They might want to leave a certain kind of legacy impact. They might want to have certain kinds of benefits for their family. You know, they might want certain kinds of experiences. But if there's something about what they've been saying they want that one, they haven't, uh, one actually known what they're getting into. They haven't thought it through enough
or their unconscious mind has like a resistance to a certain aspect of it. Like what it would take at a certain stage, what it would mean. Like one, uh, basically thing that comes with the package
and it's just has a particular either like limiting belief or a negative association from the past with one aspect of it is kinda like a flying the ointment, just that one bit could throw the whole thing [00:11:00] off. And that's why people hire people to find these patterns like a detective and go, well, where's the block? Right? What's the limiting belief to shift, you know, what's the negative association, like the stopping point? I. Being raised in the south, it comes to mind to just say the hitch in the giddy up,
Jenna Brown: The hitch in the giddy up. I hope that our AI that transcribes us like really picks that up
Kristin Rivas: Yeah. It's a good one. Everybody's got a hitch in their giddy up. If they aren't actually if they've been saying, I want the thing,
you know, and it's three years later, you would have the thing.
Jenna Brown: A hundred percent.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah.
Jenna Brown: I remember getting trained in like intention and being like, wow, this is a really so long that we're talking about intention. But now I understand it as like really the power of energy. If we are combining our [00:12:00] energy and I am witnessing you as a mentor and or you are witnessing me as a mentor and you're saying this is what I see for you because I understand what you value and I understand where we're going now.
And then we can pinpoint that and the other person is saying, yes, also, I want that. Now the energy is going towards that intention and I just, it's interesting 'cause I was just on a call yesterday with a client where her homework was literally like, we have to figure out what you want. 'cause without that, and even speaking about overflow is.
Your energy is like trying to expand, but if you aren't aware of what your next level is, or a lot of people will make their next level be really small. Like, oh, I just want one step forward. But their energy is already creating like this vacuum almost of okay, no, we're going like huge and this is what I see a lot.
And then they start to experience overwhelm. Like they're like, oh my God, everything. It's almost like the walls are caving in on me energy, but I'm like, it's because the what is not big enough. It [00:13:00] is not like a big enough container for the energy to actually flow. So it feels like the energy is collapsing a little bit anyways.
And so like on that call, I was like, we gotta get clear on what you want. 'cause I can't really mentor you in a direction if we're just like circling around, right? Like we have to have a direction. Which one thing I really appreciate too about you and your work is or even just in general is when we are saying quote unquote, we're stuck like, oh, I've been at this level for so long.
I'm plateaued at this level. I'm stuck in survival, or whatever. All that is is essentially we just don't have a clear intention of where we're going so that the energy can move in that direction and essentially tools or people in our corner to help us remove the shit that comes to the surface as we're moving in that direction.
Would you agree?
Kristin Rivas: Yeah, I think, uh, I see it all the time that maybe because people haven't known how to handle quantum leaps, like big growth spurts
Jenna Brown: Yeah.
Kristin Rivas: [00:14:00] before or they basically haven't really caught up with their actual capacity
in the current moment, or what I would think, I believe is like somebody's sole capacity, like what they came here to do and learn. And so their hesitation, like they might be choosing a comfort level safe. First step
or something like, this is what I came here today with this session, or what I'd like your assistance with, you know, whatever container I'm being drawn to, or something like
that, to make this happen. And actually, I think people underestimate the value of having such a beautiful intention, goal, outcome, target. You know, that's actually exciting and enlivening awakening enough that it would spark so much aliveness and passion and, uh, a [00:15:00] thriving, like a, stepping into a next level identity, a higher level identity, and playing it real small or safe. I think people underestimate the amount of cost that can come with that. Like how there can be more stress, there can be more dissatisfaction. There can literally even just be almost like. Health issues and things like that of stalling the like
sitting on the fence, not being all in 100%. And I see people really thrive when they've actually dared to admit what the full vision is. Like what would really, really excite the hell out of them to go after. And it's very exciting to assist people with those quantum leaps.
Jenna Brown: I love that. And that is like what I see for you of all of these people reaching out to you after listening to this podcast of hi, I went to Quantum Leap. But I love it.
Kristin Rivas: experienced those
quantum leaps obviously.
Jenna Brown: God yeah, literally. And I'm so used [00:16:00] to Quantum Leap at this point.
It's just like second nature, but. Most people are not, they're like so confused when things start to shift and they're like, what's going on? And I'm like, you're literally getting what you asked for. This is what Quantum leap feel like. Do you like it? They're like, no. I like that you said this thing about soul capacity, and one of the things I've seen for you and I would love to chat about, uh, and like for me too, and I would love to chat about this, and this is so pertinent to this podcast, uh, this season because I keep talking about overflow and everything's pointing to overflow and coded, and all of my like private recordings on that podcast are all about overflow and like this unique set of bullshit that comes up when we're going from survival into overflow and what do we like actually come up against?
And what I find is that if I think of survival, I think of three DI think of making money to survive. Okay. Pretty basic. But I also see so many people say, in order to follow my soul [00:17:00] path, I have to get rid of all of my 3D. And I'm never that person. I'm always, if anybody's ever heard me talk about your business as a field, I'm always like, we have to have a 3D.
We can't just be out here on a wish and a prayer and wondering why we're not making millions of dollars, just like sending out vibes into the world. However, just so we're clear for everyone listening, but however, what I see is that when people have built successful companies who that meet their needs, okay?
So like survival would be, it meets my needs. It's enough. I am paying my bills. I'm not homeless. I'm, I'm not like in need energy. But then they're saying I want to go into overflow energy, which is I want more than enough. I want. This expansion, what I find is most people try to do more of the survival stuff and then they're like, why am I getting burn out?
Why am I getting sick? What is going on? And then they're like, oh, I need to drop this part of my life or business. So let's just pretend if someone's in corporate and they're like, oh, I'm so burnout, I need to [00:18:00] drop it. But it's because they're still trying to scale that part of their life rather than going into what I would say keep that part at least or now and go into more of the sole frequency.
So for me, how, what I would say with sole frequency, sole capacity, as you said, that is like an energy that exists beyond space and time and it's this beingness. So let's just like riff for a moment on how you have really tapped into that soul frequency and so capacity. What has that done for you?
What experiences have you had? Let's go down, down that rabbit hole.
Kristin Rivas: It's a fun rabbit hole.
Jenna Brown: Good?
Kristin Rivas: Okay, so, I grew up a pastor's daughter, which
I think is relevant to begin to talk about this
experience in this conversation. And I, I definitely never grew up thinking that I'd become [00:19:00] somebody who experienced, you know, a life-changing session with a hypnotist and then studying hypnosis and becoming a well-known hypnotherapist, who gave a TED talk about like hypnosis. I just didn't see that life path. But what is interesting is since I was young, you know how peop adults, a lot of people ask, you know, Hey, what do you wanna do when you grow up?
Jenna Brown: Yeah. I hate when people ask my kids that I'm like, they wanna be kind. Okay. They wanna be good people.
Kristin Rivas: I know, right? Oh, you need your life experience
path figured out at
Jenna Brown: When you're eight,
Kristin Rivas: when you're eight. Yeah,
Jenna Brown: I'm still like, what am I doing?
Kristin Rivas: I know. I just, I think it's a weird question to ask kids so young,
but I do remember that when people would ask me that question. Like throughout elementary school, even middle school or even high school. What's interesting is that my answer changed the actual words, but there was [00:20:00] always a very specific image that I saw that
came into my mind anytime anybody asked me. And it like the image, it's like third person perspective. So I see myself in the image from behind, like meaning I'm looking at the, the back of me,
the back of me is on a stage
in a like stadium and there's lights on me and there's literally millions of people watching me.
And so when I was young, I thought I would grow up to be like an evangelist, missionary, like some
members of my family, preacher
Jenna Brown: we all did.
Kristin Rivas: at one point. I, yeah, started winning public speaking awards when I was in the elementary school. So I was a member of Toastmasters and things for years. I did a lot of volunteer work and would speak, you know, for nonprofits and things like Mothers Against Drunk Driving after my sister died from a Drunk Driver.
But basically I also was in theater and I was in college like studying to do drama therapy for like my international admissions
Jenna Brown: Hmm.[00:21:00]
Kristin Rivas: and stuff. So sometimes I thought I would be an actress, sometimes I thought, and yet I realize this thread throughout my whole life that it was about using the power of words or storytelling to influence people.
Like I would say, you know, Oprah Winfrey talks about raising consciousness on the planet
to return people to their divine nature, a state of wholeness, like one with source and one with each other. Unity. Right? And I can see now that thread it happened. Way more distinctly how I see my, if you wanna call it like soul mission and the soul expansions that I've had in my 3D realm in my body. This is gonna start to sound pretty trippy. Everybody buckled your seat belts
so
Jenna Brown: already buckled up. They're fine.
Kristin Rivas: they're already buckled.
Jenna Brown: we're, all going on a trip together.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah, so, in the summer of 2024 I think it was my 15 year [00:22:00] anniversary from that session on June 20th, 2009, where my functional neurological disorder had disappeared in that session. But in that summer is when there was the, fallout with the RRT community, the founder and everything. And I was really, really devastated because. In that session, there was a part where the hypnotherapy portion of the RRT session started to happen and my body started to wig out and I had tremors
from the functional neurological disorder symptoms. And I'd close my eyes and I had said a prayer like, God, if this is anything that would bring me further away from you, please protect me right now.
but if this is okay for me to be moving forward with please let me know. And in that moment, I felt what I would've called the still small voice of the Holy Spirit or something. I felt like it comes from if I'm talking about the submodalities in an NLP kind of way, [00:23:00] there's anytime where I've ever prayed a prayer or had a really deep, strong, intuitive download, it comes from a certain direction in my head and it has a certain kind of quality and there's amazing clarity. brevity to it and like deep, strong, overwhelming peace. And the thought that came into my mind was, this is the state that you're meant to be in all the time. And it was this really, really beautiful state there. One scripture that I take away from my Christian upbringing or from the Bible was like about the fruit of the spirit.
Peace, patience, gentleness, kindness, love, self-control, and all these like when you're in your most whole state.
And that's what I felt. And I hadn't felt it in years because I had been afraid that my gay sister was burning in hell after she had died. And that was just quite a burden to bear.
anyways, I had been grieving the fact of all this stuff that I'd found [00:24:00] the unethical things about the, my mentor, the person that had helped unlock this healing.
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: And then mentored me. I basically was in a extreme state of deep grief, the, just the day before I was about to go to a, my first Joe Dispenza Advanced Meditation Retreat. Somebody had called me and basically was willing to add in a testimonial like evidence report of things that they had seen happen to me in a hotel room in 2009 that I had no conscious memory of absolute amnesia.
And so I had just found out this information and it was very disturbing to me.
And it began to have a negative association, like with hypnosis. And I was very confused because I had like always that anytime I had ever sought, council or like, is it okay, should I move to Seattle?
Should I do this? Should I do that? And I felt that particular kind of. Direction come in that had so much peace and a sense [00:25:00] of certainty with it. I'd always felt all these benefits happen,
Jenna Brown: Hmm.
Kristin Rivas: but I was in this, I mean like profound levels of synchronicity and blessings and growth or something happened in my life and now everything was so confusing looking back on this whole experience of well, yeah, my health got better, but also there was these negative experiences that had happened to me and I was confused processing it. Anyway, a couple of days into the, well, the first meditation that we did at the Joe Dispenser retreat was a heart opening meditation, and I felt energy in a capacity in a way that I'd never experienced it before. Like you and I, we know when we do RRT processes with people, with clients that you can feel energy it happened.
You can
feel. Energetic shifts when we talk about aligning towards intention and the mind organizing towards intention. And we work with beautiful energy in those moments. But the moment that [00:26:00] the Joe Dispenza, was guiding this heart opening meditation, I immediately felt like I was almost drowning in the most beautiful way in a sea of love. And it felt like my heart, you know? And the Grinch, uh, how his heart grows and
it beats outside his chest. It felt like I was almost gonna explode from love in a really beautiful, blissful way. And I had all these memories of love, every different kind of love, platonic love, romantic love, spiritual love, like just beautiful moments.
And I smelled roses, and I tasted brownies, like hot chocolate molten lava cake. and I cried for an hour or two. Anyways, that was like. Meditation one within 24, I think the next day I felt my pineal gland like activate.
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: By like the third day I was seeing, meaning I felt vibration and energy like in the middle of my head.
And I thought that I'd grown a third eyeball. But like [00:27:00] I, then I started seeing almost like psychedelic images for those who have ever taken psilocybin mushrooms or had a psychedelic experience. But I was being able to see it without being in an actual altered, trippy state, no drugs, just from having done by that time, 20 hours of meditation or something. And so I was seeing all these images and I started to see, an eye, like the eye of providence, the evil eye, the eye on the back of the dollar bill. Sometimes it would have a pyramid, sometimes there would be gyroscopes wings. Sometimes there would be just one eye, sometimes there would be many eyes. And I asked, what is this that I'm seeing? And I started having these memories about what I'd learned about. Like angels
had the biblical description of angels, how people have felt afraid. And when you like look it up, you can Google it, how they look like sometimes eyes or amalgamations of eyes different. And then I was like, is that what I'm seeing right now is [00:28:00] angels?
And basically the I stuff started talking to me and answering my questions about did Jesus ever really exist? What is the actual message of Jesus and all this? And asking all these kinds of spiritual questions and questions about my life. And it was so healing for me. Like all the, the answers that I got explained a lot of things and including about the nature of reality. Like it just backed up what I'd been learning about quantum physics and just about like how there is a way for everybody to experience being in full unity with God. There's many, many different paths and life journeys and stuff like that, but basically everybody, uh, can realize that they are not separate from God, And so by the fourth day I experienced what I'm assuming, I think might be either lucid dreaming or interdimensional travel and talking like [00:29:00] with beings of other, I don't know,
At first, I would've thought that I might, I I, you start to question your sanity at
this point. But what's interesting, what happened is that, uh, when I told my husband what was going on, 'cause at night I was like commuting to this, the Joe Dispenza meditation retreat and sleeping in my home in Dallas, Texas at night. And so my husband would ask like, how did today go? What happened today? And I'd be like, well,
Jenna Brown: Oh my.
Kristin Rivas: I'm talking with angels in my head, you know. my husband his dad died in his arms on the top of a mountain when he was about to be awarded Eagle Scout when he was 14 years old. And I actually assisted him in helping him clear the, the trauma of that. But he just has used psilocybin mushrooms and different things. He is done ayahuasca. So he was like not freaked out by my
experiences.
Jenna Brown: of course.
Kristin Rivas: I. Kissed him after I told him what I was experiencing. And what's so interesting is [00:30:00] that what I was seeing in my head transferred to him and he started being able to have conversations with the angel eyes.
Jenna Brown: Love it.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah. So like in his own head. And that's happened in least half a dozen times since that first happened, where I would be meditating and having conversations with these beautiful divine beings of love, light, and healing that basically said that they were coming to assist me in my work with people like helping to activate further, activate my senses and sharpen my senses, like all the, the clears. you you made a post recently about how being a sidekick, you're not sure exactly what all the clears. I don't know that I remember what they're called either,
Jenna Brown: I know. I'm just like, I think I'm all of them. So like whatever. But like when people are like, I'm Claire Sentian, I just nod my head and I'm like, of course. But I'm literally like, I couldn't tell you which one that is. The Claire what? Claire Auto Ian or
Kristin Rivas: clear audience. Clear
Jenna Brown: that's hearing,
Kristin Rivas: Yeah. [00:31:00]
Jenna Brown: But like that one makes sense to me.
But all the other ones, I'm like, cool.
Kristin Rivas: So all the senses. Yeah. Basically they said we're helping to , sharpen, and heighten. Like all those senses
for you to assist you in your work. That's the reason why you're here.
Why everything basically had happened in my life, like up until then was to be able to help me with this life mission and basically so I just experienced these really, really profound things that I had evidence that they had like actually happened and that I hadn't gone psychotic, like when I traveled either by Interdimensionally or something had a lucid dream.
I don't know. I really wish that there had been cameras in the room that night and my husband. Uh, who's like you? Very, uh, Renaissance man, a DD when creativity strikes him, he was just like up in a studio working on something that night. And I actually don't know whether I like [00:32:00] just left the room in my mind or with my body, but there's this
experience that happened where I went to what the, these beings called, I was in the place in between places and they like blessed me gave me a blessing.
But they had actually, I know that this is really weird, uh, like one of them stapled a barcode that looked like a price tag that you would put like almost like something in grocery store.
Like onto my shoulder. Onto my arm. And when I came back there was a red mark on my arm the size of that tag,
Jenna Brown: Oh, oh my God. I love, I live for this.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah, right. It's so interesting. And I also while I had gone wherever I went, that looked like something from Star Wars when I came back into my bed in my bedroom. Uh, and then I went through to the pineal gland meditation that morning at 4:00 AM with the Joe [00:33:00] Dispenza retreat, the people that I was sitting next to in my aisle, which we move sections, if anybody's ever been to a Joe Dispenza, they rotate the room so that people have a chance to sit in different, like they can see closer to the stage or anyways, they rotate the room and there's like the white team, the blue team, the green team.
Anyways, so my white team, I, I sat next to new and different people every day, but oddly enough, where I had gone, I had seen blessings happen for other people in this interdimensional place. That they had told me was called the place between places where people were getting blessings and they said your healing is gonna show up in earth time, like in two weeks time and stuff like that. But I ended up seeing the blessings that were gonna be given to the other people sitting next to me. Like I'd seen them the night before,
wherever I traveled, and then these people were sitting next to me and the outfits that I'd seen them wearing,
Jenna Brown: mm
Kristin Rivas: shit like that, you know,
Jenna Brown: Like that. Casual,
Kristin Rivas: so [00:34:00] that happened. so I had these like beautiful experiences almost feeling possessed by love, which I experience like deep healing in my body. Like to the point where food allergies cleared up and stuff over the next coming days. Just such amazing, beautiful experiences. But what's brings me to a interesting point is that The day after I had come back from the Joe Dispenza retreat, I, you were my first client of the day.
Jenna Brown: I know. I
Kristin Rivas: allowed to tell this part, this story.
Jenna Brown: Yeah. I love it. Let's do it.
Kristin Rivas: So I like warned you at the beginning I was like, I'm just, if I have a really amped or unusual energy today, it's because I'm like floating on cloud nine. I've meditated for over 40 hours in the past
Jenna Brown: And I was like, let's go. I was
Kristin Rivas: Yeah, you were like,
Jenna Brown: do it.
Kristin Rivas: lucky me.
Jenna Brown: Yeah.
Kristin Rivas: So, in the session with you, there was a part where we were doing memory reconsolidation or like the [00:35:00] hypnotherapy, like organizing mine closer towards the intention. But we were doing some healing like from your own childhood.
And I don't know if you remember me saying this, but this is something that I've said quite often over the past 16 years whenever It's made sense in a session to actually do healing in, uh, offer some kind of healing experience for somebody's memories, like something that's happened to them prior in life and touch on that and like purposefully bring healing to that experience.
I have said this is the closest thing we have to a time machine,
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: and I've actually told many clients throughout the years, I actually would like to write a book about the time traveling hypnotist that becomes like a vigilante who gets inspired not just by healing trauma, but actually changing time, like
actually healing people's past or preventing harm from ever coming to them.
And people are like, oh, that's an interesting book.
So then,
Jenna Brown: that's like the story of your life.
Kristin Rivas: right. So what, [00:36:00] what, ended up happening was that like while I was guiding you through doing a healing technique with your own childhood. I had this experience of I'm talking, I'm in the zone, I'm in a state of flow, and all of a sudden I see in my like mind's eye the heart chakra symbol, like that star,
that symbol that's on the heart chakra.
And it was like in white light. And it just started like a appearing in the middle of my vision. And it looked like it was charging it was like glowing, it was getting brighter, like v and then it looked like in Star Wars, the light warp speed where you see like light move all of a sudden I saw like stars appear behind it and then it was like light warp speed.
And I felt this is gonna sound like my consciousness or my soul almost getting out of my body, even though I still felt my body and I still was keeping up somehow with guiding you through the healing process. I also experienced. Being [00:37:00] sucked through time and being in the moment of I would say like the Holy Spirit or God, almost perspective like consciousness perspective of hearing me pray.
That prayer like in guardian, angel, third person, Ariel perspective, being in the room while I was, uh, on June 20th, 2009, praying for protection and like praying for healing. Is this okay to be doing this?
And I basically had the experience of touching my own forehead and like giving those words like, this is the state that you're meant to be in. And literally like energetically causing that healing, which in the moment I'd felt tons of warmth and vibration happened throughout my brain that went down my spinal column. Like down to my root, you know? But I felt like all this, huge energetic healing happened
and basically I experienced me activating that,
[00:38:00] like being one with God energy and making causing that to happen.
And then as soon as I experienced that, I was boop back in my body and I was somehow still talking, leading you through. And your eyes were closed.
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm. Uhhuh,
Kristin Rivas: I literally, Jenna, I cannot remember if I told you what happened. did I say, Hey Jenna? I think I just time traveled
after that session, or did I tell you later?
'cause I might have
Jenna Brown: I don't know if you did on that session. I mean, obviously you did at some point after,
Kristin Rivas: I did. Uh,
Jenna Brown: if it was that session or not, but I, I can't remember if you were like, whoa,
Kristin Rivas: think I did. 'cause I thought it might feel like a little disrespectful that I hadn't been fully present with you.
Jenna Brown: You might have said that though. I could see you being like, I didn't, I was totally present or something. And then at some point I was just like, this is crazy. Because I have had that exact same experience and that is when I was like, what in the world? This is [00:39:00] tripping me out because I, are you done?
Kristin Rivas: No, I was just remembering when I actually told you it was when we met for coffee
Jenna Brown: Oh, okay. Okay, okay. yeah, yeah.
Kristin Rivas: months later.
Jenna Brown: And I think I told you probably when we met for coffee that I was like, that's actually so crazy because I had this time travel experience, which was in my near death experience, which those of you guys that don't know the story, long story short. Once septic with my daughter.
I was in and out of consciousness throughout the night fighting for my life. This is when I had the download that changed my whole entire life, which I would say is the Christ consciousness download or upgrade is maybe even what I would say, like the best way I can describe it is always I woke up a different person.
And what I mean by that is I literally think on a DNA cellular level, I changed and everything I had thought before my near death experience was like completely different after I woke up. So I went to sleep that night being like, I'm a pastor, I run a nonprofit. I sacrificed my life for [00:40:00] everyone. We had $5.
We were literally homeless. My husband was driving Uber. I had two kids and was pregnant with my third. And I woke up and my husband came to the hospital and I was like, I'm quitting. I don't believe in the church anymore. I'm leaving. We're quitting the nonprofit. Everyone's gonna hate us. That's, this is exactly what's gonna happen.
I said, verbatim. Boom, boom, boom. This is what's gonna happen. Everyone's gonna hate us, but we're gonna be fine. We're gonna be so abundant. And he was like huge. Like what? He was just like, go back to sleep in the London. But in that nighttime, I had an experience where, it's so interesting because I was on a stage and I was speaking to this whole group of women and I was telling them with my words, I was like seeing inside of their bodies, these like little seeds that had never been watered.
And I was speaking, and as I was speaking, I was saying, you have such big dreams, like it's time for you to remember how big your dreams actually are. And I was saying this out loud, and as I was saying it, I was like watching these little like things bloom out [00:41:00] of their bodies.
Kristin Rivas: Oh my goodness.
Jenna Brown: And at the time I was in this, uh, experience and I look over to the left, which is so interesting too, because every time I ever get a download, it's always on my left side.
So I think it's interesting that you're like, it's always on a side. I always can tell when it's like a psychic download 'cause it's on my left side and it's almost i'm hearing it
Kristin Rivas: exact. That is so fucking weird.
Jenna Brown: Is that how it's for you?
Kristin Rivas: Yeah. It's the lift,
always. The
Jenna Brown: back, this is wild. It's always the left. That's how I always know. It's not like me or like my conditioning when I get something, it's like I almost look up here and I'm like, oh, I got it.
Okay. Boom.
Kristin Rivas: is, wow.
Jenna Brown: Isn't that weird? Okay, this is tripping me out. We're probably gonna time travel as we're like on this call, but like everyone
Kristin Rivas: as we do.
Jenna Brown: as we do, okay, so I look up to the left and I said, this is kind of strange, but I was like, daddy God, is that you and I have never been one of those people that called God daddy.
I think that's so fucking weird, just so we're clear. But I said, daddy, God, is that you and I had this sensation, I [00:42:00] looked to the left and I had this sensation that like, yes, it's me. So similar kind of experience of I ended up walking away from the church and that whole activation was me realizing Christ consciousness, universal truth.
I guess I would say what I believe, which is. We are all God, there's no separation, there's no heaven and hell. It's a state of the mind like we are all one. That kind of energy that you're speaking of, which I would call it a Christ consciousness activation. And as I processed that through my body over the next two years, it was like hard for me to understand why did that, like why was I like daddy God?
Because like I was like, I don't, how do I reconcile all of these experiences I had that were like the Holy Spirit quote unquote, or like I literally saw people get, like I was in Africa seeing people's deafness be healed, like limbs growing back. Like I have seen crazy shit, like literally the craziest of shit and I.
How, how do I make sense of that? [00:43:00] Anyways, I had the same experience when I was in my RV in an almost tornado and I was so scared of it and I was like in this like state of meditation and I went into the tornado and on the other side of the tornado I time traveled back to back to this experience and it was me.
It was exactly what you're saying is it was me saying, yes, it's me. Like it was hire yourself, me. That moment in my RV saying, yes, it's me. And I saw myself saying that felt it, and then receipt. It was just the strangest experience of my life and then I was, again, I came back into my body and I was like, I'm pretty sure I just time traveled.
It wasn't like a hypnosis, it was like actually happening is the best way I could
Kristin Rivas: I don't it. It's not, yeah, like there's a difference whenever I've experienced, in your mind's eye experience something in an imagination,
Jenna Brown: Yeah.
Kristin Rivas: right? But you know how, just like when you have a dream, you can't tell that you're dreaming. It's so [00:44:00] real. You can feel things. You can
see things and stuff like that. It's just it wasn't like I had a vision. It was like I actually felt being in
three places at once, I had the experience of being the person, praying, being in the perspective of answering the prayer
and being in the present future me of like still sitting I just, unless you've experienced it and know, how does your consciousness hold all three of those experiences at the same time? Unless it happens to you, but
it's the
Jenna Brown: I just think it does and we are just not aware of it. And as we raise our consciousness, we're actually like becoming aware of who and what we actually are. That we can be God consciousness, all things at one time. And also ego consciousness of here I am in this present moment on this weirdo timeline, whatever I'm doing.
Like I think that we're always in these different spaces, but we just aren't aware of it. And
Kristin Rivas: Yeah.
Jenna Brown: you are [00:45:00] practicing that awareness. And like in that session, what I find is so crazy is kind of like how you kiss your husband and he had the immediate experience. I feel like you were in my energy and had that immediate experience of oh, we just casually time travel now.
And Christ consciousness is what is the basis, which is what I always say is like at, I always tell people like know, know at the core of the soul, like why is someone coming to you? Like I always know at the core of every soul that comes to work with me, that is the activation they want. That's the activation.
So it's like less of me being like, here's the perfect marketing thing. Of course I have that and I'll help you with that. But it's always that it's like this energy that people will walk away and say, you like helped me see that I'm literally God, like I'm creating my reality and I'm also experiencing it at the same time.
Kristin Rivas: exactly. in RRT there is a perspective that we offer, you know, the people that we assist, called [00:46:00] like the pieces about identity 'cause we all get it. That we understand how we think of ourselves deeply affects our experience of being ourselves.
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: And the RRT approach was talking about, like you ask a client, when's a time when you've experienced both peace and excitement? You know, you were present, you were outwardly focused, maybe seeing something beautiful in nature. Let's think. That is you. You're not your body. You know, people don't throw funerals for fingernails. Clippings and hair and stuff like that. If you define yourself based on the body, like where do you end or begin when your blood cells sloughing off, when you eat, absorb, digest, eliminate.
If you define yourself based on the body, it starts to get very interesting where you cut that off. You know, like the body is constantly changing, the cells are dying and renewing, regenerating every seven years, and it doesn't make sense to define who you are based on your habits, your behaviors, your beliefs.
People can find faith, lose faith, switch political [00:47:00] parties. By some miracle. They can absolutely, you know, their habits can change. And the relationships can change. So people might define themself as I'm a wife, or I'm a sister, or I'm a coach, or this or that. But all that can change and people can have identity crisises.
So
obviously we get that people's view of who they are is one of the most pivotal, things that influence their capacities, their decisions, their behaviors, their quality of life, how they think of themselves.
And I feel like, uh, because of my experience of what I had of feeling like I felt so outta control, I felt like this health experience happened.
I had zero power control over it. That's what it felt really disempowering, very scary. Like I could dive a head injury any day, any moment for two years. I lived with that. And then all of a sudden I realized there has to be [00:48:00] a recipe for unlocking healing or empowerment in creating a reality.
You want, if it fucking happened to me in a session like where one moment I was extremely ill in the next moment, I felt totally whole and free and peaceful and clear and then understanding like somebody like Joe Dispenza who's broken it down so well, you can read any one of his books becoming supernatural. Breaking the habit of being yourself. You could read fucking Jenna's posts, I'm sure, find out, you know, the secret. But this, this thing of the, when you really, really get it like about your divine nature and you really, really get. How unlimited you are, and you really, really get the science behind creating new realities for yourself. that's why I think people that are really, really hungry for not just like [00:49:00] settling, I don't mean to judge anybody that isn't if you don't wanna be a multimillionaire or have like tons of followers, I don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Whatever your soul's journey
is but like for people that are like, I don't know, I feel called to this. I feel called to impact. I feel called to, uh, overflow and amassing tons of resources. I feel called to changing systems. I feel called to build legacy for my family and my community. Like people that, that, I don't know, that's their soul's calling.
I feel like you definitely gotta be working with a coach. You definitely gotta be working with a mentor, you are unlimited,
you are divine, you are capable of anything, you, everything is an illusion. You know what I mean? Anything that is not, that is an illusion. And unless you're working with somebody that has had that awakening and like fucking lives that every day and is embodying that you know, you just of course you'll hit [00:50:00] a wall
like with what limits are, like, what's possible if you're not working with people that get like how possible things really are.
Jenna Brown: truly.
Kristin Rivas: Yeah. So right after I had that experience of time traveling for the first time in the session with you, I called my husband who was away training. With the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. He's a nuclear reactor inspector, and he happened to be traveling at that time to the location he was in the town.
It was Chattanooga, Tennessee, where I, I had just told you like the, the day before the Joe dispenser retreat, somebody had said, I saw things happen being done to you in a hotel room in Chattanooga, Tennessee, or whatever. Like back in this time in 2009 that I had no memory of that was disturbing to me, and I'm willing to go on the record about it. And I was being triggered even just by hearing that town's name [00:51:00] and
remembering the things that had happened there. And here, my husband was training there and I called him and I
just said. Wow. I just had this amazing experience that just happened and as I was telling him about it, I time traveled again. So I had the experience, I had the experience of being on the phone, still talking to him, and then, uh, being present with my past self the fall of, I think it would've been 2017, it might've been 2018, where I had had this novel experience of all a sudden during the, a hypnotherapy portion of a session with a client while we were like in an off in my office together.
So this was an in-person session. Where I had seen a, glowing green symbol hovering in front of their chest. Suddenly, like while my eyes were closed, it was as if my eyes had fully [00:52:00] opened and there was this symbol that looked like the, about the size of a steering wheel of a car or a ship or something like that, like a helm floating in front of their chest. And my hand magnetically moved in front of the symbol and it, my hand started moving the opposite direction. The symbol was turning, and then the symbol started turning the, the direction that my hand was going, like clockwise, counterclockwise kind of a thing. And the client had all this beautiful healing happen and epiphanies and stuff like that, and just had these beautiful tears of joy and release.
And I had no idea what was going on at the time, but I pretended like everything was normal. So that experience had happened in my, I didn't know anything about chakras. I wouldn't have been able to tell, because I'd grown up In a home where we weren't even supposed to say the term new age.
You know, not
talk about crystal or anything, explore witch
witchy things. And
so basically my husband got me this heart chakra sound bowl. [00:53:00] That's actually, this is what I was using with you.
Jenna Brown: Mm-hmm.
Kristin Rivas: I was like sounding this sound bowl during our session when I time traveled the first time.
Jenna Brown: Yes. Of,
Kristin Rivas: I don't know if that picked up. But anyway so then I had the experience of, again, like in that moment touching my forehead again and then taking my hands and moving them in front of the client's chest.
Like basically the same thing had happened again where I'd seen the heart shocker symbol. And it sent me through like light warp speed. And then I was back just talking to. My husband on the phone, but the day after that had happened in 2017 where my husband explained, Kristin, I think you might have done a heart chakra alignment on your client.
And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
What are you talking about? And he's there's seven chakras. And I would never have been able, would've picked the color green for that. Like when I was thinking about this energy of love and healing, assisting the client that day, I was imagining in my [00:54:00] imagination on purpose, like a pink energy.
And then all of a sudden I saw, uh, this glowing green symbol and stuff like that. So basically since having come back from that Joe Dispenza retreat and being like actually open to all this stuff of like no longer feeling afraid of things as being like demon demonic or evil, but feeling absolute like connection with just. What's best for the client that I'm working with and what's best for the world, what's best for all of us?
Like always being tapped into that energy completely with love and with wisdom and with insight and without fear. It's just been causing beautiful experiences to happen for me and my clients.
And I think that that's one of, uh, the things that I love about you and what you do. Jenna, is just that, I just wanna thank you for having been a leader in this space, of not [00:55:00] being afraid of judgment or what other people think, and just unapologetically going I want the people that I work with to be unlimited. I want them to be operating in their highest capacity, like power, like growth, and not settling and. I think that we're all birds of a feather who flock together.
Jenna Brown: we find each other.
Kristin Rivas: exactly we're like drawn and we resonate. And so those are the kinds of clients that like now I love to work with as people that wanna play full out and want to experience being unlimited and embodying abundance and overflow.
And I'm personally really loving it. I think it works much better than survival.
Jenna Brown: Yeah. That's great. Highly recommend
Kristin Rivas: I'm a fan.
Jenna Brown: fan. I love it. Thank you. And I just think it's so incredible to just see one, how, like everything's evolved for you and continues to evolve. And then also everything evolving [00:56:00] for me and continues to evolve. I'm just so excited about all of the potentiality that is in the field for you, for me, for all of our clients.
And before we go, if we think of the person. Who's listening to this right now, the woman who is like, I'm ready for this next level, but I even want it a little freaked out?
Kristin Rivas: Yeah,
Jenna Brown: uh, maybe being activated a little bit. A little bit right here.
And I find that women are like, pretty aware of what they're afraid they're gonna lose in the process. And, and I like, don't always think that they have to by any means, but I think a lot of that message is out there and it's kind of become like a subliminal for women rather than what if you just get to have it all and it just gets to get better and better and better.
But is there anything that you wanna share to that woman who's on that edge? And like you said not who's like on the fence, but you're like, let's just get that, let's get that homie off the fence. Anything you wanna share there, [00:57:00] and then how can they find you and where, and then is there anything that we're sharing in the show notes that they can.
And I mean they can just come and follow you or whatever we wanna share there.
Kristin Rivas: yeah, sure. Thank you. So I see when it comes to, for instance, money blocks with women, which a lot of times. Uh, basically they're just like blocks for high achieving women. So whether it's affecting their visibility, their ways of showing up as a leader, as a provider, in service, like with expansion, there's 13 patterns that I've recognized, and I have a giveaway about the top five most common,
like things that are blocking high achieving women the most common.
So they're like neural patterns around money blocks.
And I talk about that and then I, uh, guide people through a process to clear the most foundational one, that when you [00:58:00] shift this one. The top five or the actual, uh, 13 patterns like really can shift
Jenna Brown: Perfect.
Kristin Rivas: that I call it the five neural patterns audio and that you can find at kristinrivas.com/services.
But we can include the link in the show notes.
I'm sure it'll be probably a, a link in my bio, uh, to an Instagram. But you spell, I mean I'm sure people will see it with a podcast. But Kristin Rivas is spelled K-R-I-S-T-I-N-R-I-V as in victor A-S.com. And so I think as you've talked about before, it's never about money. It's about something else that has to do with responsibility and identity crisis. Can I still be a good person and be wealthy or will I lose my tribe? Or something like that. Feeling guilty. Patriarchal programming, masculinity. Ooh, is it okay to earn more [00:59:00] than my husband? Or something like that.
There's all these different kinds of blocks and I think it's useful for people they might not even know that they have them,
right? And then what to do about them. But also kind of like how if you shift one, you can cause a positive domino effect,
right? And in your life. And so very happy to provide a breakthrough experience like that for people.
And, if they'd like to continue going down the rabbit hole of what I have to offer, totally happy to welcome them to the community.
Jenna Brown: Yes, please, please, please, please. I love this. Thank you so much for being you and for doing your work in the world. And I feel like also, I just wanna say, there was many opportunities, I think, where you could have said, I can't do this anymore and I'm gonna go into hiding. And no one would've blamed you and you didn't.
And I just wanna say thank you for that and yeah, I'm just so excited for people to get to know you better and learn from you and be. Transformed [01:00:00] through your work. So thanks for being on this podcast. Everybody. Make sure that you go in the show notes. Get that freebie because, hi. Hello. I've experienced this so many times where it's like you can do all these like little base level healings, but if you really don't have the big kahuna, the one that's like holding up all of these dominoes, it's a lot of work.
Like you're just kind of like, let's keep saying affirmations in the mirror rather than like actually doing the clearing that's necessary to reorganize the way mind is seeing.
Kristin Rivas: That's what I was gonna say. This process that people can get is actually a nervous system reconditioning and a brain rewiring process. It is working at the level below story and like somatically, like with the most subconscious parts of the brain. And it's a technique that most people don't ever get exposed to and they have to keep fussing around with affirmations and such.
And so, but [01:01:00] this is definitely the place to begin and it makes everything easier. So thanks for, uh, reminding me to let people be aware of that, Jenna, and thanks
for all that you do. Thanks for your platform, your brand. Thanks for everything that you stand for, your mission, and Thank you guys for listening.
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