Intro: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Jenna Brown Show. I am Jenna Brown, psychic business strategist, wealth Energetics mentor and subconscious healing expert. The guide for women who are scaling to 6, 7, 8 figures in their business and who are done playing small with their power, their money, and their visibility, who have a deep inner belief that they get to have it all.
This is a space where strategy meets the subconscious where money becomes clean and where you learn how to expand your field of influence without burning yourself out or betraying yourself. Contrary to popular opinion, we talk about wealth, leadership, identity energetics, and what it takes to actually hold the type of money, the type of business and reality that you are calling in.
Clients cash, impact, desire. We talk about it all here. If you're ready to move beyond the hustle, beyond the proving and into overflow, that feels grounded, embodied, and [00:01:00] sustainable. You, my friends, are in the right place. Let's begin.
Well, hello there and welcome back to the Jenna Brown Show. You guys, I've been avoiding making this episode because as we all do, or maybe it's just me I've been asked to make this episode a couple of times. I have thought many times to myself, I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna do it. But the truth is, creating this episode, let him lead and sharing with you a really intimate part of my life.
Was a little nerve wracking one because of course my husband didn't sign up to be a public figure the way that I have. So I wanna protect him in the way that I share. And yeah, like I'm always just Very conscientious of the way that I speak around my marriage.
That being said, I was like, cool, let me just prolong this forever. But then I kept getting so many people asking me, what shifts did you make? how did you shift this in your marriage? How have you guys still been married and hot and [00:02:00] heavy for each other this long? What are the tips?
What are the tricks in my friend? I'm gonna tell you. Okay. I mean, like truly, have you ever said you wanted your man to lead, but secretly, you didn't trust him to you didn't think that he would do a good job? Me too. So let me begin by saying a little recap of our relationship.
So that you can kind of understand where I'm coming from. My husband Brandon and I have been best friends since I was 16 and he was 17 years old. We went to high school together. We ended up dating right before I was leaving to go be a full-time missionary in Australia. He told me he was in love with me and we dated overseas for an entire year.
This is back before. FaceTime. We used to Skype each other with horrible, shitty internet and we could talk once a week for 10 minutes or 20 minutes. And then all we had was emails to write back and forth to each other. And we fell in love that way over emails [00:03:00] essentially. When I was in Australia and he was in Ohio where we're both originally from, I came back to the United States after a year of being in Australia and leading teams all around the world.
And we knew we were getting married. We just knew, like we knew the minute we started dating that we were getting married and we came back and right when we got back we adopted his teenage brothers, which is a whole other story for a whole other day. But we adopted them at 13 and 14 years old. Had them in our home, the oldest, until he got married when he was 21, I believe.
And in the process also got married, which has been almost, let's see, Hyland is, he's gonna be 13, so we'll be married for 14 years this year. Got pregnant two weeks after got married. We have Highland, Rena, and Effie, so we have a almost 13-year-old at the time of me recording this. A 10-year-old and an almost 7-year-old.
And we have been through a lot. Okay. We've been through a lot of transitions. I genuinely think maybe [00:04:00] one of the only reasons why we're still together is one, because we are soulmates. So there's that. I'm British. Sure. We've been together in every single lifetime. And two, we we're best friends. Like we literally were best friends.
Brandon has seen me at the worst of my worst, and I at his. And we were able to transition through so many life transitions together. I will say it's like a miracle. Before we got married, I was really so nervous to marry somebody that wasn't, in my opinion. This honestly just shows you how far back this programming actually goes that we're gonna talk about today.
But I was scared to marry somebody who wasn't as quote unquote Christian as me. Like I would've never said that out loud, ever, but I thought that a hundred percent thought that, and I was nervous about that, and I'm so freaking grateful that he wasn't, because I was so intense. And when I ended up leaving religion, we just, like naturally were able to do that, where most couples are not able to do that.
Couples end divorce when one of the [00:05:00] people deconstructs the religion, but thankfully. we're still here, we're still standing. We're still strong. And anyway, so most of our relationship, my husband was the breadwinner. He was really the one who was bringing in the primary. Amounts of income. One, because I was birthing babies and having babies.
And two, because I had a nonprofit where I made $4 and I definitely wasn't contributing to the family financially, but I was in heart. Okay. And then seven years ago well, actually it'll be almost eight years ago now, when I was pregnant with ny, my littlest, I had my near death experience, my spiritual awakening.
I woke up. Overnight post being on the other side and realized I wanted to leave the church, I wanted to leave my nonprofit, everything was gonna shift and change, which it did. And I set out on my healing journey. And that very first part of my healing journey was genuinely doing the wealth capacity [00:06:00] work.
I was doing subconscious reprogramming hypnosis for all my fucked up money issues, which is why I'm so passionate about helping you guys. Do that as well. I just had saw myself do the same thing with money so many times. It was like literally obnoxious. I couldn't watch myself do it anymore. And so, I hired my very first mentor, shout out Abby Levine, and she did subconscious healing work on me and oh my God.
It, it worked. It worked. Like your girl is rich now and she used to be homeless. Okay. So we've gone through a lot in our marriage and yeah. And that season where I was doing the healing and even when we sold our house in 2020, we bought an RV and traveled the us Just like wherever we end up, we, we end up, but with no end in sight.
A year later we landed in Sedona, Arizona, where we still are. And everything is just completely different from the time that we left Ohio where we're from. To now. So like fast forward, what is [00:07:00] it? 20, 26, 6 years later. Our whole life is just so wildly different and I have had to go through journeys that I've never seen anybody talk about or yeah.
The way that they talked about them, I kind of was like, I think you're lying. I, I don't think you're telling the truth. So there's that. When we were in the rv, Brandon was still the breadwinner. I was just starting out this business and I was making probably around $3,000 a month when we started that journey.
When we got to Sedona, that's when I was starting to have $5,000, $7,000 months, which is really exciting. And we took a jump. We took a leap and rented a house here in Ston, which was like way more money than we had ever spent renting anywhere. But we just knew we needed to be in this like magical, rich land.
And here we still are all of these years later. But within that first year of living here in Sedona, that's when I hit my first $10,000 month in my business. And like right [00:08:00] away, I feel like we were such like newbies. To money in every single way possible. I feel like I'm like very much noticeable as like new money person, which I'm totally fine with.
I feel like I wear it as a badge of honor where other people might be ashamed of it. But right when, when I hit a $10,000 month, basically we were like, cool. Brandon's coming home from work because at the time he was still traveling. He was installing RV roofs and he was still traveling away from us for three days at a time.
And I was like, this will just help so much if I have childcare. We were homeschooling the kids at the time and he's great. So he came home and I don't really think I knew the gravity of that decision. Like what we were actually saying. So we said this just makes more sense because I could make more money in my business than he could traveling, and we needed support with the kids so that I could grow the company.
That sounds like really great and logical. I wasn't really thinking about anything energetically, and again, no one was guiding me on this decision. This was just kind of like, this is the logical choice to make. So we made [00:09:00] it, now looking back, we made that decision. So, hastily, like just you, because you hit one $10,000 a month doesn't mean you're gonna hit that every single month.
Like it's gonna take a while for that to become your new set point. It probably took me six months or so, but it was way more pressuring than it probably needed to be because all of a sudden I was responsible for all of the finances rather than just that was fun to make $10,000 and here's a vacation now.
It's like our whole life is dependent on me. So, I went from experiencing like at no point in my life until then had I been like the one really responsible for my financial reality because I got married when I was like five years old. I mean, I was 23 I think, but, or maybe 22. But I got married so young before that my parents were supportive or I was a full-time missionary and made like we had $5, but like never really until this point, a couple years ago.
Was I responsible for my whole financial [00:10:00] reality, which is actually, I didn't realize that until, I'm just saying that out loud. Anywho. So now I had three kids and a husband, a high rent payment that I wasn't used to paying on my own. And a lifestyle that had just really grown in to be accustomed to two incomes.
Right. At the same time, I was not practicing what I love to talk about all day, every single day, which is profit first, and I didn't really realize that just because I made $10,000 a month in the business doesn't mean that I should be taking home $10,000 a month. Like I was actually only taking home, or should be at that stage, like 5,000 even probably less because I was so heavily investing so that I could scale.
So anyways, I didn't connect any of those dots, so then I entered into a very stressful season of at least two years of trying to regulate my nervous system to be accustomed to making at least 20 to $40,000 months in the [00:11:00] company bringing home at least $20,000 months at home. So if you're like, wow, these numbers are crazy.
Cool. I'm just sharing with you the journey. It could be any number, but I think everybody's numbers are different, obviously. But for me, this is like where it really started to feel super heavy, and this is where the energetics just got really, really wonky for a while, so. In this time, right? My husband then takes on the role of, he is like overseeing all the things in the house.
He's responsible for cooking dinner. He is responsible for doing all the laundry, he does all the dishes. He cleans up after the kids, he's homeschooling the kids. And I am responsible for all of the income. So obviously it wasn't just like I was doing all of the things, but. Even though I would try to gaslight myself and convince myself that this is the type of support that made me feel, held it, it didn't I really, really, really wanted him to be [00:12:00] making money.
And I feel like it just like never logically made sense at the time. And I would be like, I want you to make money. I want you to make money. But it was really from this like inner insecure space of. I need you to rescue me. And I didn't like this feeling of not only do I have to rescue myself, but now also I'm responsible for all of these other people's wellbeing.
And then I'm thinking of things of like retirement and stuff, and I'm like, I don't wanna pay for your retirement. Like, why am I paying for your retirement? I want you to pay for these things. Where he was totally chill and I feel like he has great grounded perspective of this is a season, but while I, I know that now, like now I'm on the other side, I'm like, yes, it was a season, but like during it I was like, this is the rest of my fucking life.
Like I was like, I could not imagine another scenario. And I just was like, this feels really, really heavy. One, because I don't run a business that's like a brick and mortar where it's a guaranteed amount of money. My business is really genuinely attached to my energetic [00:13:00] output, and as much as I've tried to get away from that and have all of the passive products and funnels, I just know the truth, which is like this part of my business is really beautifully attached to my energetic output, which means my energy is the number one thing I need to be.
Concerned with. And then the energetic output essentially creates the cash flow. And then what I've had to learn post, like the beginning of this season is cool cash flow comes in and then that cash flow gets redistributed into assets and things that grow the wealth passively for me, rather than trying to make me get every single need I've ever had met by this one business I'm running.
But that's a whole other podcast for a whole other day. Anywho, so. So yeah, he is at this point, there's a good two, three years where he is such an amazing homeschool teacher. He's a coach of all of the town sports. He is doing all of the things right, but I am still just feeling so [00:14:00] heavy and so overburdened with responsibility and it was just a lot.
And so if you're like, cool. How do we change this now? It's just wild because it feels completely different. And the reason why I'm creating this podcast is because I wanna just show you the inside of my like gross, kinky mind. Maybe it's gonna resonate with you. Maybe you're just gonna be like, Jenna's a freak and that's totally fine.
And also, by the way, I just wanna caveat if being like fully responsible for all of the finances for your whole family feels totally light to you. I love that for you. I think that's great. I think for me, because I grew up in a household where my dad had three jobs and my mom was a stay at home mom, and I just saw that power struggle.
My whole reality. I also now see them as adults where my dad has provided my mom with a retirement and he's, there's a lot of bitterness and yeah, I just don't want that reality. That's not something I'm interested in personally, but if [00:15:00] that is something that you love. How at it? I just feel really, really good when the financial contribution is not even near being similar or like it has to be the same, but like that there is financial contribution on both sides, that there's financial conversations on both sides.
I just think these are things we don't talk about as women or as business owners. 'cause it gets messy and we're trying to protect. All the people in the process. So I wanna hopefully start talking about them and we can continue to talk about them, of course, as a community. Okay. So around probably seven, eight months ago, maybe, maybe even longer, maybe a year ago, I started to do the work that I tell everyone to do in this area, which is taking responsibility, right?
And I started to do this thing where I was like. what if you are creating this reality, which I genuinely believe, we are creating our realities. What if you are creating this reality, why would you need it to be this way? So what [00:16:00] I mean by that is the reality I had created up until that point was this sensation and feeling of no matter what happens, it's always gonna be up to me.
does that programming sound familiar? It's all up to me. I had created this reality where even though I had this incredible like relationship and this incredible support, I still didn't feel held in my nervous system. I had created a reality where. I had told myself this story so many times at this point that I am just like, what I do is it's possible to make so much more money than what he could ever do, which is just kind of gross that I just said that out loud.
But that's true. And I mean, we would even talk about that, like what is he gonna do? Neither of us have college degrees like I can make money literally fall from the sky. How could he ever do that kind of thing? And I just started to get really questioning e with it, just like I would with a client.
Are you sure? Why? Why do you believe [00:17:00] that? And how does this protect you? And why is this something that would be like a self-fulfilling prophecy or something that you actually want? So. When I started to ask those questions, that's when I started to like really see underneath, right? I saw these stories , I was also kind of, income plateaued.
I was seeing that I was like plateauing around 50 to 60,000 cash months and I'm like, oh, I'm kind of plateaued because I'm at this point where I don't wanna make more money. And then it's even more ridiculous for me to like ever think that he could make the same amount of money that I'm making.
And so most people don't realize that we are wired to preserve relationship above all else, and nine times outta 10, all of my like plateaus have actually been relationship issues with my partner more so than anything else. So, fun facts. Anyw, who? So I, yeah, I was at this place where I was just like, this has gotta be a me thing.
I know this is a me thing. Like I can just tell when it's girl, you've lived in this reality for three years. And then I was like, oh, I get it now. [00:18:00] So I was creating this whole reality so that I could be a victim, because here I am whining and complaining I'm a victim because like life is so hard because I'm so successful and no one can be as successful as me.
And, you know, like even thoughts of well I didn't know this when I got married. Like I didn't care about money when I got married. I didn't think I cared about retirement when I got married. Well, yeah, I was 22 years old. Okay. I'm like, I didn't care about any of these things. So, yeah, like it just was like so interesting of watching how my mind would do this, and it was really just me sabotaging more success.
Okay. So I started to really look at this oh, I think this, I always call it like a victim pocket. I think really highly successful women. We are successful and we love that about ourselves. And then also we kind of use it as a little pocket to be a victim in. It's kind of like moms do. I don't do this as a mom at all.
Like I can't stand when moms do this. But like a lot of times, mom, I feel like [00:19:00] it's easier to see with motherhood. So like a lot of moms, they'll be like, motherhood's so hard, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm also like, girl, you like literally chose to be a mom. Like you actually chose this, so shut up and stop complaining.
That's kind of like how I feel about being a high performing , woman who's very successful is like also that it's like we created the success and then we complain about like how successful we are and like no one else can be as successful as us, but like it's creating this victim pocket that it's like an.
Acceptable victim pocket. No one is gonna go up to a mom of three kids, one of them with special needs. Hi, that's me. And if I'm complaining about how hard motherhood is, no one's gonna come up to me and be like, no, it's not. No one's gonna be like, Hmm, I'm sorry. You're not allowed to say that. But like I would say that to myself, because I'm constantly looking for the areas where I'm sneakily the victim.
If I was doing that in motherhood, I'd be like, girl, like you chose this. Like you need to rechoose it because you're whining and complaining and getting resentful because you feel like you have [00:20:00] no out and no choice, and so you need to get back on board and choose. Okay. Same thing with business, same thing with being a high performing woman and in these like unique relationships with partners and especially men, I'm like, I was creating this pocket where I just got to be a victim in wind and complain to myself all day in my head.
So there's that. So it, it allowed me to have a little victim pocket. The other thing is it allowed me to be better than him, which is so gross, and I can't believe I'm sharing this like publicly on a podcast, but it's true. It. I realized this one day and I was like, this is maybe the grossest thing about my subconscious was that I secretly was like getting off on this fact of I had figured it out and he hadn't, like I had figured it out and he hadn't, and therefore I'm better than him and he's not, and I kind of like got to hold it over his head a little bit.
I feel like that's enough explanation to know that is gross. But when I have explained that to women who are also breadwinners and their partner is like trying to figure out what they wanna do with their life, they're all like, oh damn. Oh damn. [00:21:00] they're like, that hits something.
So I'm sharing it. Hopefully it hits. If not, feel free to judge me. So there was that that little gross aspect. And the other thing was it just felt safe. Right. If I look at my childhood, one, your subconscious mind is wired to keep you the same as childhood period. And in my childhood it almost feels like it's seventh grade me coming out of my mouth when I say things like it's all up to me.
Because I remember creating that program in my mind with the chaos in my home and being like, oh, no one's gonna like care. And it's all up to me now. I remember saying that, I remember thinking that, and it just was like this self-fulfilling prophecy that I had created of it's all up to me.
I have to take care of everyone. Hello, by the way, I'm the oldest daughter, if you didn't already know, I'm the oldest daughter. I, I'm the middle child. I'm like a classic middle child. I'm sandwiched between two boys and the forgotten one, the black sheep. But like literally, I just. Created this same [00:22:00] reality where I was responsible for everyone else, and then I got to complain about how I was responsible for everyone else.
Okay? So I noticed all these programs. I gagged it at myself. 'cause I was like, that's disgusting. And then I just had so much compassion for myself because I saw I just wanna point this out, the better than you think was also like a survival mechanism. So if that, resonates with you and you're like, this is gross, how could I be like this?
For me, that was a survival piece because I had to think that way in order to survive. Okay. When I look at my, and I'm trying to be gracious about what I share here, but like when I look at my parents' relationship, the person with the upper hand power was the person who was financially secure and therefore was the one who was winning in the relationship.
The other person was getting beaten down and harmed and hurt and. Really disappeared and I didn't wanna disappear, especially post the near death experience. So much of my subconscious [00:23:00] motivation to survive was so that I wouldn't disappear, I wouldn't die. And so for me, I looked at it with so much grace and compassion of this is actually how you stayed and survived.
I realized these subconscious patterns, I did the work to rewire them subconsciously. And then what's so wild is I just kept choosing my expansion. I kept saying no, I am going to do this. Regardless of if he figures something out or doesn't figure something out, I will continue to expand, I'll continue to serve, I'll continue to be in this mission.
I'll continue to do my work. Period. And so I chose that path. I continued to expand. One day I had this like psychic hit, which I don't really ever share my psychic hits with. With my husband. I don't know if you've ever tried to tell your husband what to do, but like it doesn't go over well. So I said hi, I have this psychic kid for you.
And he says, great, what is it? And I told him, I had this psychic hit that you're gonna, what you do 'cause he's at the point back then, where he's thinking what do I wanna do? What do I wanna do for a career? We, we had put the kids back in school in the fall and so created this [00:24:00] beautiful container of space for him to figure it out, which is always awkward if you've ever been in that container.
It's awkward. But he was trying to figure it out and I had this hit. I was like, you're gonna do exactly what you've always done, but you need to think bigger numbers. You need to think bigger numbers. Okay, great. That same week, I ended up going to this incredibly, very expansive conference. I come back, he then goes on a trip to the Grand Canyon.
I'm like, what's that thing called? The big hole hole in the ground? He goes on this trip to the Grand Canyon. And he's like totally transformed, comes back, he's like totally on fire, has this whole time with these guys great time. Ends up talking with one of his friends and they start to talk about this business idea, which is so wild because I had sent Brandon a reel and my other good friend had sent his business partner a reel detailing private jets.
Okay. We live in Sedona. It's a super, super wealthy, rich tourist area. And we have a airport here that has so many private jets coming in every single [00:25:00] day. And I was like, oh my God, you should totally do this. And she had sent his business partner, the same reel. Oh my God, you should totally do this.
And Brandon had kind of written it off as well, it's too hard, too many hoops to jump through. And then he met his friend and he was like, he had kind of written it off of I don't know, I don't know exactly what his thought process was, but. He hadn't run a business before or whatever, and so they started talking together and they're like, oh my God, we should totally do this.
So in this one week span, I'm like, Hey, think bigger. Same thing, but bigger numbers. They meet up and all of a sudden the business has started and he comes home and tells me about this business. And I immediately have so much peace about it, which he's had other business ideas and I've been like, eh, I don't think that's one.
But like I had so much peace about it. He's great, I'm gonna run with it. And. So he does. And what's so wild? This is December, it's March now. Everything has just unfolded so beautifully and perfectly and it has brought up so many things that I'm like, oh, that's why I kept you in that role. It's almost like it's really gross, but [00:26:00] it's kind of like I was keeping him as this like little like man servant of.
Because it made me feel so safe and comfortable. And now that he's like really stepping into his power, really stepping into his masculine energy, one, it's super hot and attractive. Two, it's oh my God. I was like, totally emasculating you, which is really sad. Three, I'm like, he's has a business idea, like he's gonna make so much more money than me.
And it's so funny because for so long I was like, no one could ever make more money than me. But I'm like, he's gonna make so much more money than me. Four. He has a business that he could sell, which is I can't ever sell my business because it's a personal brand. I mean, I could, but I probably wouldn't.
And integrity wise, but that's wild. There's so many things to this that I'm like, oh, four, he has a business partner. And it made me realize how much I like don't trust people, because I'm like, why are you so trusting of people? And I'm like, oh, that would be nice if I had that. There's just been so many things that have come up that made me realize.
A lot of times you don't realize why you're blocking something until you have it and then you experience all of the [00:27:00] like dysregulation around it and you're like, oh my God, no wonder like this is the reason why I was blocking it for so long. And now that I feel like I'm on the other side of that, the business is started, it's starting to take off.
It's really, really cool to watch him like grow and expand. It has just been so amazingly freeing for me. To continue to practice this energy of letting my husband lead. So this is part one. This is just like the story of how, how we're here. I'm gonna drop part two of these lessons, or like these energetic shifts I've been able to make in this amount of time of stopping emasculating my partner and letting him lead.
I'm gonna share that with you in part two, but I wanted to share this as part one. This story of truly how wild it's been in the last eight months to go from eight months of me whining and complaining of just being like, life is so hard and I have to be the victim to my reality. Like it, it's such a hard thing to be so successful to [00:28:00] now I'm just kind of laughing at myself because I'm like, wow, girl.
Like you were really getting off on that story when all you had to do was just shift the story. And then the space opened up and then your whole entire reality shifted. And now we're in a totally different quantum leap, which is way more nourishing and life giving. So just to bookend this part of part one, I just wanna say if this is resonating with you, allow yourself to be like triggered.
Allow yourself to be curious. If I were to say the relationship that you're in, you've created it to be this way for a reason. The dynamics that you're in, in your relationship, the ones that like, why would you even be listening to this if you're not a little bit annoyed with the dynamic in your relationship?
Maybe just 'cause you love me, but or 'cause you're curious. We love all of those answers. But when you think about the relationship dynamic that you've created, if I were to ask you, why do you need it to be that way? What are you gaining from that dynamic? And what do you lose if you actually shift the dynamic?[00:29:00]
Right? So for me, looking back at that, when I was about to shift the dynamic, I'm looking at it, I'm like, I'm gaining the fact that I have the power. I'm, I'm gaining the fact that like I don't have to feel insecure. If he's more successful than me, I'm gaining the fact that I feel like I'm better than him.
I'm gaining the fact that I get to be a victim. Right? What would I be? Essentially kinky AF over in this dynamic that you're experiencing right now. Because the truth is you can actually shift it literally overnight. But you're not. and also the other reason why I wasn't was because I kept telling myself the story.
I'm waiting for him to shift the dynamic. Here's the thing about waiting. When you wait in anything, you're pushing money so far away from you. It's literally gross. Waiting is avoidance energy waiting is your're, putting the power in somebody else's hands. But when you take full sovereign ownership over your reality, you stop waiting.
You're like, oh, the reason why it's this way is 'cause I want it to be this way. Why do I want it to be this way? Because I could leave, I [00:30:00] could change it. I could literally manifest a completely different energetic overnight, but I'm not, why wouldn't I? Okay. That's what I'm gonna leave you with and I'll see you in part two.
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